A Photo That Feels Off

Crista Cowan 0:00

Have you ever looked at an old family photograph and just known deep down in your bones that someone left a whole part of your family story out of the retelling? My guest today, Michael, grew up with a fiercely independent mom named Dolly and an eccentric grandmother who kept her house at 55 degrees and her secrets locked up tight. For generations, the family assumed Dolly's father was a man named Eugene, but when Michael finally took a close look at his DNA results, that story completely fell apart. What started with an unexpected ethnicity percentage and an unopened DNA test kit sitting on his office shelf led him straight through old newspaper archives, hidden relationships, and directly into Hollywood royalty. Because it turns out his mother's half-sister was none other than well, I'll let him tell you. Get ready for a wild, beautiful story about family truths that refuse to stay hidden. Enjoy my conversation with Michael Lynch. Hi,

Michael’s Childhood And Dolly

Crista Cowan 1:12

I'm Kristy Kellen, and this is the podcast where telling your family stories can help create a deeply connected family. Welcome to Stories That Live In Us. Michael, I'm so excited you're here. I'm excited to be here. I love that you came in person. That was very kind of you to do. We could have done this over Zoom, but I think this will be more fun. I agree. So tell me uh about growing up. Like what was your family like? Parents, siblings?

Michael Lynch 1:44

I was born into very fortunate family. And um my parents work hard, give me back to their community, and in their in my father's business and so forth. Uh I'm the youngest of four children, three older sisters, and um 11 years range between the the four of us. Um I was the um male that came along a little bit late. And uh uh so I didn't uh uh participate in making dresses or anything like that, but I was uh I had a lot of yard chores and a lot of things, and and um and we weren't a family that went to Hawaii or Disneyland. Uh, oh boy, we're going to a museum. And and I got to loving that, but it took a while. Um, and and it took me a while to appreciate just what a great thing that was, and uh what an opportunity that was because um other other kids weren't getting that. Yeah um and that was kind of a constant, and a lot of uh faith and uh uh uh teaching that uh centered uh uh me a lot. Now it it didn't uh didn't always work. I was pretty independent.

Crista Cowan 3:13

But uh keyword for rebellious, um off the charts. Okay.

Michael Lynch 3:19

Absolutely. A counselor called my mother at school, high school. She says, he says, I don't like your son's attitude. And she says, I don't like it either. You leave it alone. Okay, well your mother sounds delightful. Oh, she was she was larger than life.

Crista Cowan 3:43

Yeah, yeah. Tell me about her.

Michael Lynch 3:45

And uh her mother, and this is gonna relate to our whole story here. Her mother took her to every audition there was, and mom tap danced and sang

Peggy’s Secrets And A Chilly House

Michael Lynch 4:00

and so forth, but wasn't material. Um, but nonetheless, she did all that. Oh, and um and my grandmother did not take the other two kids to these things, which is kind of a rear view mirror tell that uh uh there was something different. And uh it didn't occur to us until after we'd made these discoveries that oh there was something different.

Crista Cowan 4:31

So then at what point in all of this growing up or adulthood did you get interested in family history?

Michael Lynch 4:37

Well, my grandpa Lynch had um had done quite a bit of work on it and had found uh a pathway back to the Mayflower, two of them as a matter of fact, um, to the Mayflower, um, and um had done done you know a lot of work. And amazingly, most all of us stands to to that same degree of yes, this is accurate today.

Crista Cowan 5:06

Well done him. So you inherited some stuff from your paternal grandfather, you explored your Bex family history. When did you decide to start looking into your mom's family history?

Michael Lynch 5:15

Well, I was always looking into a whole bunch at once. Um, but uh with my mom's I knew my grandmother, she was a strange woman. Okay.

Crista Cowan 5:30

Singular word.

Michael Lynch 5:31

And uh and she could be difficult. Uh she kept her house at 55 degrees. Oh gosh, and ate out, you know, the the dented can cupboard of the world was her house. She was she was kind of uh uh punishing herself in many ways in retrospect. And um we weren't that close to her. I can rem my mother had a she loved her mother very much, but they would have troubles getting along. Yeah. And I can I can vividly remember when my grandmother called and told my mother that she'd bought a house on the Oregon coast, which was two hours from us. And my mother was in tears for days. Because she was gonna be too close. Too close.

Crista Cowan 6:19

Yeah. So what did you grow up knowing about your grandmother's background in her life?

Michael Lynch 6:26

Very, very little. She did not share a lot. Um my my she had uh, I think five husbands that we're aware of.

Crista Cowan 6:36

Wow.

Michael Lynch 6:36

And um and my mother would say, Well, Mr. Day, and a husband made them call her, was not a very nice man. And that's what she called her stepfather. Mr. Day. Wow.

Crista Cowan 6:51

So when and where was your grandmother born?

Michael Lynch 6:53

My grandmother was born in 1896 in Clearfield, Pennsylvania.

Crista Cowan 6:58

Okay, and how did she make her way out to California?

Michael Lynch 7:00

She made her way out to California because she didn't want, for some reason, there was something uh, some friction with her and her hometown. Okay. That we don't know. It wasn't necessarily with her mother or father or older brother or younger brother. So I don't know what it was from, but when she she went to the Kellogg Institute when she graduated from there, and it's only 125 graduated from there a year, she went back to Clairefield, stayed one night, and moved to York, Pennsylvania. And what year was that about? That was about 1916. Okay. And she went to work at a YWCA. Um and she continued to work at the YWCAs. Uh right in newspapers.com. There's a spat with the that she has with the executive director, and and she quits. Okay. And she works for the phone company there for a while, and then she decides to move to LA, and she's working for the YW somewhere down there, and they're giving instruction to um uh many of the soldiers who are army soldiers, and they're not this is uh right before the Spanish flu, so they're not actually getting deployed in World War I, but they're part of the balloon corps. And this is where she met Eugene, her first husband. Okay. And they had uh they were married on the base during the Spanish flu uh lockdown, and only two witnesses, and they were just two people from the base. No family members came. Um his family lived in Buffalo, New York, and her family lived in Clearfield, Pennsylvania. And they'd never met one another, didn't know one another. Um and um and that that started their their marriage. He got out of the balloon corps to make more money so that they could own a house and uh and save up money, they went back and lived with his family in Buffalo.

Crista Cowan 9:16

She was criss-crossing the country back and forth, yeah, and had a son and Bobby, Uncle Bobby.

Michael Lynch 9:24

They moved back to Los Angeles, to Alhambra, and um had a home there. Uh Bobby was raised Catholic, um, as Eugene was Catholic. There were lots of innuendos where it was not a happy marriage, but these came out later for me because my mother wasn't born until 1926.

Crista Cowan 9:53

Okay. So so how long? What's your grandmother's name?

Michael Lynch 9:57

Uh Peggy or Margaret.

Crista Cowan 9:58

Okay, so how long were Peggy and Eugene married?

Michael Lynch 10:00

Peggy and Eugene were married from 1918 and divorced in 1935.

Crista Cowan 10:08

So they were married for a while.

Michael Lynch 10:09

They were married for a while, but he was a clerk to a judge, and he would take off for months at a time. Okay. And and he had a probably had

Eugene, The Marriage, And Quiet Clues

Michael Lynch 10:20

a drinking problem and uh might have been a womanizer type thing. Sure. Sometimes he was there, sometimes he wasn't.

Crista Cowan 10:27

And how many children were born to Peggy during that time?

Michael Lynch 10:30

Uh three. Okay. Uh so Bobby was born in Bobby was born in 21 in Buffalo. Okay. And Bobby's baby book also serves as sort of a diary and her marriage to Eugene. Okay. And it goes dead silent in the middle of 1925. Okay. About when my mother was pregnant, uh conceived. Okay. And it doesn't start up until she's born. Okay. And then Eugene's name is on the birth certificate.

Crista Cowan 11:04

Okay. And so growing up, did your mom, like, did she she have a relationship with Eugene as her father?

Michael Lynch 11:12

Uh no. Never a Christmas card, never phone calls.

Crista Cowan 11:16

Um did he communicate with the other children?

Michael Lynch 11:19

Yes. So what's your mom's name? Uh Virginia Lee, and that's one word. Virginia Lee. Did they call her that? No, they called her Dolly.

Crista Cowan 11:27

Oh, okay. Okay. So Dolly and Peggy. And you said that your grandmother like was taking her to auditions and pushing her into like entertainments. Yeah. And that was for all of her childhood. Yeah. Okay. And how did your mother feel about that?

Michael Lynch 11:45

She didn't express regret, but you could also tell um she didn't, she just wanted to have fun and be a good person and and and work with others and so forth. She didn't have the the drive to say, this is what I want in life. Yeah. Per se. And um she actually had amongst all this, they were dirt poor. My grandmother was able to buy a home, and she actually had it. And it's another clue for things that are not quite right. Uh, she owned it as a married woman, but separate in her own name. In her own name. Wow. Yes.

Crista Cowan 12:30

Peggy sounds like a singular person. Yep. Um, at what point in your mom's life, or is it not until you come along, that people start questioning Eugene's paternity of Virginia Lee, or want to start investigating?

Michael Lynch 12:43

Unfortunately, it wasn't until

Ethnicity Results That Don’t Add Up

Michael Lynch 12:45

I started taking DNA tests. Okay. Um it should have been. We should have been starter. There's clues, right? There's clues. But it but apparently we're not that bright. Um in 2016, I take my first DNA test. And it comes back, and I, you know, I I hadn't taken a course, I didn't know what I was looking at. Um, but I could clearly see and understand that, hey, I'm supposed to have more German. What happened? Because Eugene was a son of Germans who descended from migrant Germans. And that's German, German, German all the way up the line. And I forget what I was six percent at that time, or you know, the range was maybe a high of 10, but it doesn't matter. The math doesn't work. Right. And so I did what any normal American does. I went and took another test.

Crista Cowan 13:46

Same company, different company.

Michael Lynch 13:48

Uh, different company. Okay.

Crista Cowan 13:49

At least you made at least you made that was that choice.

Michael Lynch 13:52

And uh um that came back kind of similar to the other. Well, must be wrong company again. So I tried another company and ended up buying all five of the majors. Um actually didn't even do the fifth test. Uh I knew something was off, it but I didn't know how to explain it.

Crista Cowan 14:16

Yeah. Um and was your mom still living at this point?

Michael Lynch 14:19

No. Okay. She passed in 2010, unfortunately, just before we could get her swabbed, uh, or it was possible. And we never got my father swabbed either, but uh he passed in 2015. And so I came up with some different hypotheses, and to prove it, uh it needed my cousins, who we thought were full cousins, but were half cousins under my hypothesis, to test. And my sister says, and I'm on the phone with her, and she says, uh, well, uh, you know they've tested at 23andMe. And I said, No, I did not know that. And I turn around like this to my shelf, and I'm looking at a 23andMe kit that I never opened from like two, three years before, and I'm thinking, idiot. So, boy, that afternoon, it was off.

Crista Cowan 15:17

You know, and and so how exactly were you related to these cousins? Half.

Michael Lynch 15:21

So on your so it's your mom's mother's side because uh So they were Bobby's kids?

Crista Cowan 15:27

Yes. Okay.

Michael Lynch 15:28

Yeah, they were Bobby's kids. Okay. And it it it and 23 and me had them as half.

Crista Cowan 15:35

Okay. So you so you your hypothesis was there was something off with your mother's parentage. Right. And you knew if you tested Bobby's kids or found where they had tested and compared your results, it would prove they were either your full first cousins or your half-first cousins. And then I talked them into testing at ancestry, also, uh, which we did and so that that like that test result, that's the first moment where you have proof that your mom and her brother are half siblings.

Michael Lynch 16:02

You have proof, and so then you think, oh my gosh, she had an affair. Can you believe it? Oh.

Crista Cowan 16:09

Knowing your grandma Peggy, right? Like, why was that like you've you've expressed that she was a little odd. Why was that so surprising to you?

Michael Lynch 16:17

I couldn't imagine it.

Crista Cowan 16:21

Yeah.

Michael Lynch 16:22

It just couldn't get there. Yeah. It it was it was that. Um, she was difficult to get along with.

Crista Cowan 16:30

So you're staring at these DNA results now with these children of Bobby's, and you realize your cousins are actually your half-cousins. When did you decide to prove it? What did you decide to do next?

Half-Cousins And The First Proof

Michael Lynch 16:40

How do I prove it? Uh I didn't always know. I I needed to get there through matches. And there were matches that I couldn't explain, but I didn't know where to start because they didn't have much of a tree. It didn't give me much to bite on. And it's during COVID now. I'd met you already at Roots Tech in 2020. Yeah. Bugged you incessantly between your talks, but you really helped me. And you helped me clean up my tree. And that was a huge, huge thing. Fast forward to Christmas time and um 2020. 2020, Christmas time. And it's COVID, so people are staying away from others. And normally we'd have we'd stick around down a beach house of families, and nobody was coming. And so you have this gap between uh Christmas and New Year's, and it's thinking, okay, this is unique. I didn't bring any work with me per se. I brought my computer, of course. What can I do and focus on that requires that kind of focus? And I thought this might be a really good time to go to those shared matches. Yeah. And and it turned out it was. And I had these three primary shared matches that were in that half-cousin range. And one had a very British-sounding name, one had a kind of a Jewish-sounding name, and one had a Scandinavian name. So I thought this is gonna be difficult. But it it didn't take me that long to figure out that the British sounding name and the Jewish sounding name, well, they were brothers and sisters. Oh. And he was the oldest and she was the youngest.

Crista Cowan 18:35

And so was she using her married name? Is that why?

Michael Lynch 18:37

Okay. And on the Scandinavian, she was their first cousin from another person. Okay, also using her married name.

Crista Cowan 18:49

So now you've got the three of them tied together as relatives. Right. Still no clue how you're connected to them. Right.

Michael Lynch 18:55

So who were their parents? And well, this is weird. There's some famous ones, some names I even recognize. And um but who were the parents of the parents? Because that's what we've got to get to. Um and that wasn't that wasn't quick nor intuitive, but that came out strong on things like newspapers.com, uh, which at that time didn't have the close relationship to to the the links. You had to go to it manually. Yeah um and and and look this up and then read it out. Um But at that point, I had a name, I had a hypothesis, I didn't like it, it didn't make sense, there's no way.

Crista Cowan 19:49

So, right? Because that's the that's what happens. You go into this thinking, oh, I think I know one thing, and then really it turns out to be another thing, and now you're coming at this research, and these are like people in the entertainment industry in LA. Yes, right? Yes, and and you think, what, this can't possibly be true, or I mean, Ricardo Monteblon was married to one of them.

Michael Lynch 20:11

Okay um I grew up watching Fantasy Islands, and um uh, you know, uh uh two of them were were were what you'd call B movie actresses, but you know, they were still part of the thing.

Crista Cowan 20:26

And these are the parents of your matches, and these are the parents of a match, and so you're trying to figure out which grandparent ties them all together because then that grandparent has to be right your mother's father. Right. And what was the answer?

Michael Lynch 20:41

And the answer was that somebody by the name of John Young um was my mother's father, biological father, and apparently, the way the stories went, he'd left his family in Salt Lake

Shared Matches And Newspaper Detective Work

Michael Lynch 21:00

City in 1917 and moved to LA. No, he hadn't didn't move to LA, he moved to Northern California, okay. Where he became he was involved in he was involved a little bit in the music business and he was involved in the lumber business. Okay.

Crista Cowan 21:16

How many children did he leave by?

Michael Lynch 21:17

Four. Okay. Turns out he didn't leave them. They left. They left him. They left him. He was born and went to school under his mother's maiden name. Uh so his father's uh identity was completely unknown.

Crista Cowan 21:36

Oh goodness. Uh so even if you had taken a DNA test and gotten more distant matches, it you wouldn't have been able to figure it out necessarily because he has an unknown father.

Michael Lynch 21:46

Because he had an unknown father.

Crista Cowan 21:47

So because these half first cousins had taken these DNA tests, that was the only way you were able to connect it to him. Absolutely. Wow. That's lucky.

Michael Lynch 21:56

Yeah, no, it it is. But then it it it it it grows a bigger snowball is that I finally get some scraps, bread scrap, breadcrumbs in the Denver Post. But even there, they're they're poorly reproduced and so forth. And there's there's a marvelous project out of the state of Colorado that digitizes newspapers in high quality. And that's the goal, that was the gold mine. Because as it turns out, there's this tragic story of a 35-year-old very successful businessman by the name of John Whitter. He was the largest perchron horse seller and buyer in the world. And this guy had an affair with a Mrs. Mindel. Mrs. Mindel had had a child by him. John Young was this the son of John Witter. Okay.

Crista Cowan 23:00

And then you're eventually able to prove it prove that with DNA and I was proven that with DNA different directions. So you put all the pieces together of of who John Young's family is. So then tell us the story of John. So he's living in Salt Lake, he has this family four kids, they leave and go to LA let's back up here.

Michael Lynch 23:18

Okay. So you go through his occupations after he graduates from high school and he's treasurer of this business and treasurer of that business and so forth. And nothing sticks to say speak of. And then he becomes president of a real estate business and that closes within nine months. And so the expectations were and is he in Colorado this whole time? He's in Colorado this whole time. Okay. And then he gets a job as a timekeeper with a railroad which must have disappointed the wife the father-in-law and is that what brings him to Salt Lake is the railroad? And that's what brings him to Salt Lake.

Crista Cowan 23:59

So they're living in Salt Lake.

Michael Lynch 24:01

They're living in Salt Lake.

Crista Cowan 24:02

Unhappy marriage. So at some point she takes the four children and leaves, heads to Southern California. What is like does she have a goal or like why California? Is there anything that She was born there? Okay.

Michael Lynch 24:14

Um her sister is married to a B uh movie director. Okay. And this is in the 19 This is 1916. Okay. And actually they get the j they get the kids to get a job as extras in a movie that all four of the kids? All four of the kids. Okay. The youngest daughter was the one that really took to it. And um and her name is her name is Loretta Young. What? The first woman to to win a uh Best Oscar and also have a uh Emmy and had

John Young Named As Biological Father

Michael Lynch 24:55

her her own show the Loretta Young show. Okay. But that wasn't Gretchen Gretchen started as Gretchen was her name.

Crista Cowan 25:02

Okay.

Michael Lynch 25:02

And um and her sisters called her Gretch the Wretch. Oh because she was singular minded she was very focused. She was going to be famous. She was going to be famous and she determined that at a very very early age and she was very comfortable and calm on set and paid attention to things and learned. And yeah she she wanted that.

Crista Cowan 25:28

Okay. So her father waits in Salt Lake for the family John Young waits in Salt Lake for the family for a year or so or presumably and then he goes to Northern California.

Michael Lynch 25:39

And and then he gets a ticket to Northern California and um and then we see in the in the newspaper that he marries a uh a local girl.

Crista Cowan 25:54

So he gets married in Northern California. How does he end up in Southern California?

Michael Lynch 25:59

So he gets married and they go down to Southern California in 19 she goes down to 19 Southern California in 1923. He's first recorded in 1924. Okay. And um uh they're together in Alhambra and um and how far are they living from your grandmother um less than a mile. Okay. Um people are kind of transient at this point in time so they they move but they're all yeah they're always around so so John Young moves to Alhambra in 1924.

Crista Cowan 26:39

Your grandmother Peggy is living in Alhambra at the same time do you have a theory like how would you tell that story just in concisely if you were to tell the story of they have they had an affair.

Michael Lynch 26:49

I don't think Eugene was around um and I think she I think she brought Eugene back into the picture cut off things when she became pregnant she cut off things with um John and uh and they moved from Allohambra to Roscoe which is Sun Valley and so that's an hour away. Yeah uh and that's where my mother came home from the hospital to and and grew up john was never a part of their life to my knowledge at all and and there was no indication that he ever tried to be part of it. Uh from Eugene's standpoint uh there had to be questions.

Crista Cowan 27:32

He has to have known he's not the father right yeah depending on how quickly she brought him back or depending upon how quickly he looked at her and she has none of my features I don't know yeah I I I don't know.

Michael Lynch 27:47

And that also sort of precipitated the the the the fall of their relationship. Yeah.

Crista Cowan 27:58

So then did John Young maintain a relationship with the four children from his marriage?

Michael Lynch 28:02

No. So they so even though they're all living there in Southern California he's not involved in their life so when he gets back to Southern California uh he has a whole variety of jobs he has a uh uh building uh supplies place in Alhambra he's manager of a music store he owns a dry cleaner and press I mean very he owns a restaurant in in Pascal man cannot keep like the same focus for very long can he well right he wasn't set out for entrepreneurship yeah um he was a decent manager and and he could handle that um I believe his longest job was being manager of the LA Community College uh bookstore uh he didn't want to be burdened probably with the child

Loretta Young And Hollywood Royalty

Michael Lynch 28:55

support that he thought was there I don't know he changed his name for some reason he changed his name he changed his birth year date he went he took six years off this isn't a fudge this is a I'm I'm a different person I'm a different person yeah and so Loretta Young and her sisters right they she becomes successful in the entertainment industry becomes very successful in the entertainment industry.

Crista Cowan 29:18

And they as far as you know never had a relationship with their father but things have been written about their father because of their correct fame. Correct and you said something to me earlier that I find really interesting which is as you have dug into the life of John Young because he is your grandfather you realize that the things they wrote about him as their father that were written about him as their father were not right.

Michael Lynch 29:40

A lot of ink was spilled what do you think your mom would think knowing like Loretta Young is her half sister well it's really I I I can answer that another way Luanna Jordan who recently passed. They were best friends growing up and Luanna Jordan when the first time I told her this story she says I believe it and she says that happened that sort of thing did happen and and you're right I don't have memories of Eugene and yet all these other things happened and nobody tried to make your mother Catholic so it's all these types of things and I think mom always knew there was something off so I think she would have been uh elated to know there there's some odd little things um on a home that they built on a on a beach home they built um my mother put in um basically church doors uh in into the home and what they are is they're they're bronze so they're super heavy they require specif they require a built-up foundation and uh uh five hinges holding these things up and there's there's a starburst pattern pattern and and uh handles and so forth these are unique animals and and as it turns out on Loretta Young's uh final uh home in Palm Springs she had a set of the exact same doors what and and that stuff like that is like how can that be so as you have connected with some of these half first cousins that were raised as the nieces and nephews of Loretta Young right like have they welcomed you into the family and recognized that relationship? Yeah yeah some haven't um but you know that they can't get their wrap their arms around is it true is it not oh they want something from us that you get that sort of thing um but uh for the most part uh it's been um very graciously uh this is really cool because it solves a lot of things we didn't know yeah um well there you go and uh no it's it's been wonderful well you you were talking about the books you can see the books behind me there that you've you've become a collector oh yeah absolutely because first off I note that it's not just that everything's false there are facts in there yeah and so going distilling that into what's real and what's not real has been has taken a lot longer uh but it's just as important. Well

Family Reactions And Sorting Fact From Myth

Michael Lynch 32:45

and now you can tell the story of John Young and I can tell the story of John Young and and I've been able to apply that to other areas of my family tree and to others family trees as well and and it's um I can't tell you or anyone who who listens to this thing I can't tell you how satisfying that is to be able to make a genuine discovery of where a lot of work has gone into looking for these things in the past and uh we're just now sorting it out uh and it's uh 78 years after my grandfather's death.

Crista Cowan 33:28

Yeah well there you go well Michael thank you so much for sharing uh not just your mother and her story but John and his story and and the discovery that is your story now about how you found them. Before I let you go we have a little

One Word One Story: Movie Theater

Crista Cowan 33:45

uh segment on this show that we do called one word one story so our word or phrase in this case today is movie theater.

Michael Lynch 33:57

Oh movie theater um I talked about how I was close to my great uh to my grandfather and um my father I believe in his eternal wisdom decided that we need to go see Dr. Chivago. Okay. And 15 to 20 minutes of it Mike come on not gonna stay for the movie. Grandpa and I sat in the lobby okay from the first love scene in the train he was looking out for you and uh and I can still I can still feel I had a butch haircut as a kid and I can still feel he rubbed the hairs in the back of my head and I can feel that. Oh and uh sweet memory that that is it's it's a great memory he was he had the gift of meeting people where they are that is a gift.

Crista Cowan 34:53

Yeah I love that thank you well mine let's see when I saw movie theater this is the first thing I thought of I'm not sure if I'm gonna be embarrassed by this or not uh so we moved from California up to Portland uh the the year I turned 13 so it would have been November of 1985 and the movie Top Gun came out the next summer and uh I had never we had kind of I mean I grew up in like LA and Central California but we're living just outside of Portland and um I'm 13 years old and I want to go see this movie so badly but the only place it's playing is downtown Portland and it is Rose Festival. And Rose Festival in Portland means all the Navy ships are in town and I was a very mature 13 year old and I think my mother might have been a little terrified to let me go but she did. She let me and my best friend go into downtown Portland by ourselves to go see Top Gun at a movie theater right downtown. And I remember afterwards we came out. Probably the Broadway or the floor uh probably I don't even remember the name of the theater yeah I think it might have been the Broadway and we walked up and down the riverfront just making eyes at all the navy boys. Well if you are watching

Share Your Story And Closing

Crista Cowan 36:05

along um I would love to hear your movie theater story. If you're watching on YouTube you can leave it here in the comments. If you are listening along on Apple or Spotify go put that story on your Instagram your Facebook share it tag me I would love to read it but most importantly share those memories with your family that's what it's all about well Michael thank you so much for coming for coming all this way to Utah um I hope you get a little chance to do a little bit of exploration around Salt Lake and maybe visit some of those places important to the young family when they lived here. I have already good I'm glad well thank you for sharing them with used by Ancestry